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Sony KDL**HX923

Onderwerp gestart op Jul 7, 2011 4:32 PM , laatste reactie op Nov 7, 2012 10:28 PM

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Bravia55HX923 1,828 posts sinds
May 12, 2011

Should i be worried, apparently complaints are comming in already for this new tv on dark verticle lines either side of the screen!, i have seen this before on the LG i had that went back for a full refund as it was the area where the ribbon cable joins at the screen for the backlight (could be seen from the front) i had 3 of them and the engineer said its not right, heres the pics of the Sony.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/crease3.jpg/

 

http://i53.tinypic.com/wi2grc.jpg

 

this was originally posted on another forum and the poster stated that this is reported by german customers and uk ones, however i have been waiting months for my pre order and dont have it yet!!

 

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  • 28 posts sinds
    Jun 20, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 20, 2011 9:26 PM

    Yeah i have heard and read about this on AV FORUM and AVS Forum i have wrote to Sony and they don't seem to concerned! Well i am as im paying £3000 for one of their tv's if it has the fault it will be going straight back and i will be requesting a replacement!! It's a shame i can't copy and paste to this site as i would of posted the reply i received. But if you would like to log in to AV Forum you can view it there. I really hope Sony rectify this Quality Control issue as they have a great tv out there let down by these niggles.


  • 14 posts sinds
    Jun 20, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 20, 2011 9:48 PM

    Well I recieved my 55 hx923 last thursday and it has two darker creases about 1cm from each bezel (left and right) the set also suffers from excessive blooming, I have organised for my set to be returned however would really prefer a fault free set, but as it appears that many people are suffering from this issue, i am not sure how to go about this, hence me returning the set for a refund.

     

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  • 36 posts sinds
    Jun 20, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 20, 2011 10:30 PM

    to add to the other replies here. I too have a KDL-55HX923 on pre-order from my local sony centre (has not arrived yet) and am very concerned by the reports that there is a batch of these sets in europe being shipped to customers with known manufacturing defects.

     

    as others have said a number of customers on avforums.com from the uk have all post pictures of their sets and the issues with the panel, that issue being vertical crease in the panel at either side. the number of customers replying with the same issue is too frequent to be coincidence.

     

    i have spoken to sony customer support and they of course deny any issue exists despite the fact customers are openly posting high resolution pictures of theirs sets clearly showing the issue!!!!

     

    one customer even had a reply from sony to say the sets were not available in the UK and these "people" must have bought their sets elsewhere, come on sony these are real people living in the UK that pre-ordered via the sony centers and were shipped their sets. 1. the sets DO exist in the UK, 2. if there is a fault at least come forward and let customers know what the situation is, which sets are affected, which are not....

     

    this will be my 3rd "main room" TV in a row purchased from sony, usually i would never buy such a high value item unseen but based on the quality and longevity of my previous sets i paid in full (over 2.5K) for this TV, the least I hope for if there are potential manufacturing issues is sony to respond with some factual information and not pretend like the TV's don't exist or all these people must be using CGI to create these images of sets with faults in their own living rooms.


  • 6 posts sinds
    Jun 21, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 21, 2011 1:43 AM

    I received my 46HX923 on Friday and also noticed the dark lines around the edge of frame as well as blooming around bright objects and some flashlighting in the bottom corners.

     

    Here is an image of the dark lines at the side of my set.

     

    Crease1.JPG

     

    As I have never owned a LCD television (I'm upgrading from a CRT) I am not sure if these kind of issues are acceptable for a top of the line model.  I'm currently deciding on whether to return the set.  So I'd be interested on opinions or indeed any word from Sony on the matter.


  • 14 posts sinds
    Jun 20, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 21, 2011 9:58 AM

    No we are not from outside the UK, the preorders were delivered this week and last, I am very suprised that Sony are not aware of this. We are UK customers and would like the flagship tv that we have recieved to be exactly that a flagship, not a tv with defects.


  • 40 posts sinds
    Jun 22, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 22, 2011 11:37 PM

    i was eagerly waiting for my new delivery date, but i am now very nervous.

    "I am not sure if these kind of issues are acceptable for a top of the line model." no they are not, seeing as how the Americans have not been suffering with creases.

    We in the UK pay the highest price and are getting the worse product, i have yet to hear from anyone in the UK without the creases.


  • 33 posts sinds
    Jun 23, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 23, 2011 12:11 PM

    Add another one to those nervously awaiting a potentially faulty TV.  Mine is due mid July and I was looking forward to it, but now....  not so sure.

     

    I emailed sony and eventually received a reply regarding my concerns, i.e. creases etc.  The reply denied the existence of any faults and suggested I contact the retailer if their is a fault once I receive the TV.

     

    You would have thought with all the bad PR that Sony have garnered of late, (I'm thinking of the Playstation Network hacking incident), that Sony would have learnt to be a bit more upfront and honest in their dealings with customers.  As far as I can tell not one of the TVs received by members of AVForums has been fault free.

     

    These appear to be the faults so far:

     

    Vertical creases down the edge of the screen - no one on AVForums has reported a crease free set.

     

    A newer issue appears to be bright flashes in the corner of the screen, particularly visible when playing 2.35:1 material.

     

    Excessive blooming - perhaps this is a setting issue?

     

    The question for Sony: Are these faults or is just the way the TV is meant to be?

     

    I'm still hoping that the issues descibed are down to an early batch, but the continued reporting of the creases does not bode well.


  • 28 posts sinds
    Jun 20, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 23, 2011 7:37 PM

    It would seem that Sony uk don't give a Damn about it's loyal UK customer base. It would be nice if Sony came into this forum and answered a few questions!!! But no doubt they won't i appreciate that any new product can develop faults but when it's right out of the box and they will not even give us a straight answer that really get's my back up. We work hard for our Money so when we buy a luxury item we expect it to deliver not fall short of the line. Come on Sony Stand up and be a Man about it and either recall the product and sort it or remove from sale until you have.

     

    When i receive my HX923 and it is faulty as it will be!!! as they seem to be all effected i will be asking for a replacement not a repaired item see the sale of goods act http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/sale-of-goods/understanding-the-sale-of-goods-act/your-rights/  And i will keep sending it back until i get a good one. Come on Sony sort it out.

     

    When my Faulty TV arrives and i then have to wait for another TV i will be submitting a loss of use claim to you as i have purchased an item that i cannot use or enjoy.


  • 33 posts sinds
    Jun 23, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 24, 2011 9:39 AM

    My local Sony Centre have been very helpful.

     

    I had contacted them a while back to report on 'creasegate' and asked them to do some digging with Sony.  As expected Sony merely denied the issue.

     

    The Sony Centre contacted me yesterday, and given my concerns have arranged for me to come to the store and view the TV in action, the TV will be fresh out of the box and in a seperate room, if i like what I see then that TV will be packaged up and delivered.  If I don't like it then I may try a second one from a fresh batch or contemplate another brand.

     

    My advice - talk to your Sony Centre, express your concerns and see if they can arrange a try before you buy.


  • 34 posts sinds
    Jun 23, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 25, 2011 1:24 AM

    Exactly what I intend to do!


  • 33 posts sinds
    Jun 23, 2011
    Geschreven op Jun 27, 2011 3:35 PM

    Update on 'CREASEGATE':

     

    Back from the Sutton Sony Centre after viewing the 55".

     

    It really is a stunning TV - BUT:

     

    Straight away with Wimbledon playing on the TV you could EASILY spot 2 vertical creases on the left and right side of the screen, about 1-2cm in and 1cm wide.  Did not really have to look for them or even view the screen at an angle, it was evident straight on.

     

    The Sony Centre agreed with me that this was a defect, and indeed pointed out some images showing some blooming issues, although that seemed less of an issue to me.

     

    The folks at Sutton Sony Centre have been superb, very helpful and understanding.

     

    So the TV is on it's way back to Sony.

     

    Let's hope Sony start listening to their customers and sort this issue out bcause it really is a stunning looking TV, and for a flagship model it deserves to be fault free.


  • StartTheCar 726 posts sinds
    Sep 20, 2010
    Geschreven op Jun 28, 2011 2:26 PM

    Afternoon

     

    Sorry about the delay in getting a reply up.  I wanted to speak with our engineers in Product Quality and take a look or myself before posting anything.   I acknowledge the lack of reply has given room to various theories and speculation; some justified, some not so much.

     

    In the defence of guys like Catmanbo, their forum activity is not guaranteed.  Indeed all of the ladies and gents from Sony post in their own time or as and when they get the chance.  Thankfully, the majority of threads are answered by the community (as it should be) and rarely need much if any input from us.

     

    That said, this community, and those on other sites and forums, represent a very healthy source of feedback and are something we keep a very keen on eye on.

     

    Despite the impression given, we are aware of this issue, and have been investigating it for the last week or so (since the first reports started to hit the retailers, forums and call centre)

     

    Since then, we have become aware of a relatively small number of sets where a vertical band that appears to be slightly darker than the rest of the picture about 1cm away from the screen edge. As some of you have suggested, this may be visible on both sides of the screen or it could just show on the left or right edge of the picture.

     

    At this time the investigation is still ongoing at the factory but we hope to have a solution soon.

     

    In the meantime, if I can ask you each mail me your details. and the details of the TV (model/serial number etc) I can then make sure that each of you receives an answer when we hear back from the factory.  I will also keep this thread updated.

     

    Best regards
    Lee


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